AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBGRBOX E-mail
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Written by David Ramsey   
Tuesday, 21 September 2010
Table of Contents: Page Index
AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBGRBOX
Features and Specifications
Testing and Results
CINEBENCH R11.5 Benchmarks
SPECviewperf 11 Tests
PCMark Vantage Tests
Everest Ultimate Tests
Video Gaming Test
Video Transcoding Test
Phenom II X6 1075T Overclocking
AMD X6-1075T Final Thoughts
HDT75TFBGRBOX Conclusion

PCMark Vantage Tests

PCMark Vantage is an objective hardware performance benchmark tool for PCs running 32- and 64-bit versions of Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7. It's well suited for benchmarking any type of Microsoft Windows Vista/7 PC: from multimedia home entertainment systems and laptops, to dedicated workstations and high-end gaming rigs. Benchmark Reviews has decided to use a few select tests from the suite to demonstrate simulate real-world processor usage in this article. Our tests were conducted on 64-bit Windows 7, with results displayed in the chart below.

TV and Movies Suite

  • TV and Movies 1 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, HDD=3%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Video transcoding: HD DVD to media server archive
    • Video playback: HD DVD w/ additional lower bitrate HD content from HDD, as downloaded from net
  • TV and Movies 2 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, HDD=3%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Video transcoding: HD DVD to media server archive
    • Video playback, HD MPEG-2: 19.39 Mbps terrestrial HDTV playback
  • TV and Movies 3 (HDD=100%)
    • HDD Media Center
  • TV and Movies 4 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, HDD=3%)
    • Video transcoding: media server archive to portable device
    • Video playback, HD MPEG-2: 48 Mbps Blu-ray playback

Gaming Suite*

  • Gaming 1 (CPU=30%, GPU=70%)
    • GPU game test
  • Gaming 2 (HDD=100%)
    • HDD: game HDD
  • Gaming 3 (CPU=75%, RAM=5%, HDD=20%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • CPU game test
    • Data decompression: level loading
  • Gaming 4 (CPU=42%, RAM=1%, GPU=24%, HDD=33%)
    • Three simultaneous threads
    • GPU game test
    • CPU game test
    • HDD: game HDD

Music Suite

  • Music 1 (CPU=50%, RAM=3%, GPU=13%, HDD=34%)
    • Three simultaneous threads
    • Web page rendering - w/ music shop content
    • Audio transcoding: WAV -> WMA lossless
    • HDD: Adding music to Windows Media Player
  • Music 2 (CPU=100%)
    • Audio transcoding: WAV -> WMA lossless
  • Music 3 (CPU=100%)
    • Audio transcoding: MP3 -> WMA
  • Music 4 (CPU=50%, HDD=50%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Audio transcoding: WMA -> WMA
    • HDD: Adding music to Windows Media Player

* EDITOR'S NOTE: Hopefully our readers will carefully consider how relative PCMark Vantage is as "real-world" benchmark, since many of the tests rely on unrelated hardware components. For example, per the FutureMark PCMark Vantage White Paper document, Gaming test #2 weighs the storage device for 100% of the test score. In fact, according to PCMark Vantage the video card only impacts 23% of the total gaming score, but the CPU represents 37% of the final score. As our tests in this article (and many others) has already proven, gaming performance has a lot more to do with the GPU than the CPU, and especially more than the hard drive or SSD (which is worth 38% of the final gaming performance score).

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The TV and Movies suite concentrates on video playback and transcoding, but only uses two threads at a maximum, so hexacore processors have little advantage over quad-cores. The results scale pretty much with clock speed, and tend to favor Intel slightly. It's interesting that the 3.33GHz Core i7-980X processor beats out the 4.15GHz AMD 1075T since the other results scale closer to the clock speed differences within each camp.

The Gaming benchmark relies on the hard disk and video card for over 50% of its score (see the Editor's Note above), and we're using the same HDD and video card for all platforms, so the Intel processor's decisive win in this test simply means that Vantage's gaming code is more optimized for Intel processors. Bear in mind, however, that most "real world" games will not show this difference; generally, in games, your video card matters most, followed by the clock speed (not number of cores) of your processor. The PCMark Vantage gaming test can use up to 16 threads, but very few commercial games will take full advantage of multicore processors.

In the Music test, we see that more cores is definitely better, and unlike the Gaming test, these results have more real-world relevance, since multithreading is much more common in music transcoding applications than it is in games. AMD processors do better overall in this test, with the overclocked 1075T eking out a very narrow win (less than 1%) over the mighty Core i7 980X.

Futuremark's weighing of the various system components in each test is the subject of some debate; and some of their choices (such as the Gaming tests's use of a 1024x768 resolution with no anti-aliasing or texture filtering being "representative" to the "consumer experience") seem odd to me, but the TV and Movies and Music benchmarks are reasonable predictors of overall system performance.



 

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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRmihai 2010-09-21 03:11
good job !
i wold like to see some temperatures with 1075t OC
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# RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRDavid Ramsey 2010-09-21 07:04
Temperatures, even under overclocked stress testing, were pretty low, never exceeding 56 degrees. Well, low in contrast to Intel processors...the max temperature of the 1075T is 62 degrees, I believe, so this overclock would require good cooling in the hot summer months.
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# Slight correction needed here...aussiebear 2010-09-21 03:15
"...(your new Sandy Bridge Socket 1156 processor won't work in your existing Socket 1156 motherboard, sorry!)..."

=> Slight typo...The mainstream desktop version of Sandy Bridge uses LGA1155. It has a different electrical layout to the current LGA1156. They aren't compatible with each other...I checked with an Engineering Sample.
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# bit.ly/9yDKcfRealNeil 2010-09-21 03:27
"....or you want to run an NVIDIA SLI setup (which, due to some weird polittical wrangling between AMD and NVIDIA, you cannot now and probably never will be able to do),...."

I have an ASUS board in my Wish List at NewEgg that supports AMD Hex-Cores and SLI together. I had planned on using the GTX460's in it and 1090T Hex-Core once I have the cash saved.

LINK: #bit.ly/9yDKcf
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# RE: bit.ly/9yDKcfRealNeil 2010-09-21 04:17
I'd like to add that this is a really great review.
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# RE: bit.ly/9yDKcfDavid Ramsey 2010-09-21 07:06
You're right: motherboards based on NVIDIA chipsets will (obviously!) handle SLI. I had one of the classic ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe motherboards myself some years ago, but didn't know there were any similar AM3 boards available.
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# RE: RE: bit.ly/9yDKcfRealNeil 2010-09-21 07:12
Also, the PCI-E connectors are both X16 speed. Many SLI and Crossfire boards don't have full X16 speeds enabled when more than one slot is occupied. They split the available bandwidth.
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# AhhPsy4computers 2010-09-26 14:49
Nothing to do with the fact AMD owns ATI by any chance??
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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRRobert17 2010-09-21 03:54
Well done David. I've owned/operated/OC'd Intel, Cyrix (stop laughing), and AMD chips over the years. You nailed down all my thoughts with data sheets. I'm not known as a fanboi of anything. But I concluded years ago that AMD was making products that would be fast enough, would survive upgrades on the same MB for at least a generation or two, and all things taken together allow more budget for other component upgrades more regularly. (yes, my budget for Mr.&Mrs. Frankenclone and their kids only comes after beans, bills, and keeping Mama happy)

Is Intel good? You bethcha skippy. Could they be in any rig I build? I'd enjoy that. But my last few MB/CPUs have been AMD due to the "bang for the buck" factor. Looks like my next upgrade in that category will be also. Thanks for playing Intel. We have some nice parting gifts for you. Maybe down the road....
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# RePSM 2010-09-21 15:53
Another very 'true to the facts' review by Benchmark. But have a few doubts. First, "Cannot support an NVIDIA SLI system "- I'm not sure this a con for a cpu. Might be wrong here but if something to be blamed for not supporting SLI, it's the 890GX/FX chipset in this case. And it's not a platform review. Secondly, any clue how the mighty i7 980x is beaten by 930 in UGS Visualization mockup? From the things it looks like TCVIS is memory bandwidth intensive, even then it doesn't make sence. finaly "if you're not doing a lot of music or video encoding" may seem to fly-by viewers as if 965 BE or i7 750 were incompetent. I've a OCed 955 BE and do a lot of transcoding for professional purpose and haven't felt the urge to upgrade to hexas yet. The only reason I say this because there are many people who think downloading some videos from youtube and converting'em to .avi is a 'lot' of encoding :D Thanks for this fine article again.
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# Pros and ConsOlin Coles 2010-09-21 16:38
I don't always agree with the conclusions our writers give a product, but without their unique perspective this website would be quite monotone. As I warn in the conclusion of my article, take each conclusion into consideration of your own criteria for grading any particular product. What we like and dislike may not apply to you.
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# RE: ReDavid Ramsey 2010-09-21 20:57
As another respondent has pointed out, there are still NVIDIA based AM3 solutions that will support SLI with this proc, so that's a good point (that's already been made).

"any clue how the mighty i7 980x is beaten by 930 in UGS Visualization mockup?"

Nope. I runs the tests, I reports the results, I speculate on the reasons when I can. This one's a mystery.

Yep, you can do a lot of transcoding on an overclocked 4-core proc; but more cores are still better. It's arguable whether the extra performance is worth the money; I suppose it would depend more on whether one was in a hobby or production environment...
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# RE: RE: RePSM 2010-09-22 14:31
David, thanks for your reply. And apologies for reiterating that SLI point. And yes I suppose two extar cores ain't going to harm. And the pricing by AMD makes them more attractive. Just hope that developers make some more softwares which could scale on those. That aside these procs are just good enough to force Intel sale i7 950 @ $300. Regards.
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# ConsultantMRFS 2010-09-21 18:56
Is "1070T" a typo above?

I thought this was a review of the
AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGR CPU.

Please clarify. Thanks.


MRFS
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# RE: ConsultantDavid Ramsey 2010-09-21 19:59
Yes, thanks, "1070T" is definitely a brain fart on my end. I'll correct it.
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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRMarkus 2010-09-22 23:35
Breathtaking that you guys fail to specify the processor's TDP anywhere in the entire article. So much blabber about it energy efficiency, but without mentioning its TDP. Bl**dy dimwits.
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# RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRRealNeil 2010-09-23 04:56
I Googled your question and got:

Max TDP: 125 Watts
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# RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRDavid Ramsey 2010-09-23 08:43
Check the "Pros" section of the last page of the article, where I mention the "Low 125 watt TDP".
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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRPSM 2010-09-23 13:15
@ Markus: 1075T is part of a refreshment from AMD on it's Thuban core architecture. Previous 1055T and 1090T had 125W and there've been no die shrink or tweaks so these new proc also has the same TDP. Use your common sense before calling someone dimwit.
And yes, they are efficient in the regard that they don't have the luxury of 32nm and yet keep the TDP at low 125W as stated in the article. Just remember two facts that the 1st gen Phenom 2s were rated 140W and 32nm six core Intel i7 980x/970 have an envelope of 130W. And you'll see efficiency in 125W.
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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRthomas 2010-09-22 23:39
"cons: 45nm process is kinda old today"

you talk like a child who is ashamed of coming to school in reebok shoes when all the other kids have nike and adidas, like the choice of processor comes down to its process granularity in a trendy fashion way.
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# RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGRDavid Ramsey 2010-09-23 07:50
I wrote the article from the enthusiast perspective, and I assumed (obviously in error) that most readers would understand the advantages of the 32nm process Intel is so aggressively moving its product line towards. You know, more dies per wafer, therefore better profit margins, not to mention all the other purely technical benefits of smaller processes in general.

If you disagree with technical issues in the review, fine; if you just don't like my writing style, go start your own hardware review site and show us how to do it.
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# my i7 930 oc is betterGarco 2010-09-23 21:07
with DDR3 triple chanel and gtx260
only with my memory i'm exceed amd

#service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=355908&compareResultType=18
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# correctionGarco 2010-09-23 21:50
Only with my memory i'm able exceed amd
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# BUILTUP CONFIGARATION OF PHENOM - II X6 CPUASHISH MEHTA 2010-09-26 00:36
i AM A NEW PERSIOHAE KNOELEDGE FOR SYSTEM CONFIGURSTION. mY SON IS HIGHEND GAME EDICT. NOW HE WANTS THE HIGHEND GAMING MACHINE WITH AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBK6DGR AS HIS FRIEND DOES HAVE BUT HE STILL NOT SURE ABOUT OTHER HARDWARE IN SYSTEMOF HIS FRIEND AND ALL THIS FOR ME IS GRICK AND LATIN.
THEREFOR SOME ONE PLEASE SUGEST ME A COMPLITE SOLUTION FOR HIS SYSTEM
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# RE: BUILTUP CONFIGARATION OF PHENOM - II X6 CPUDavid Ramsey 2010-09-26 04:14
Ashish, if you will take this question to our forums, I'm sure you'll receive plenty of help. Also, please take off your "caps lock" key when typing.
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# RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBGRBOXNoe 2010-12-08 01:12
TYVM, David, for this review.
It has answered some of my questions about the new AMD hex cores. Mostly to do with performance @ same clock speeds of these processors.
However I would still like to know, how the 1035T & 1055T shape up against the 1075T/1090T/1100T.
Are these all essentially the same processor, with different clock speeds or is there some real difference when dropping from the 1075T to the 1055T?

What would be the difference of OCing a 1055T @ 4GHZ (is this possible, with a stable system?) Vs a 1075T @ 4GHZ, if all other hardware was the same?
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# Good question, also energy and 890GXGoyta 2010-12-08 14:49
Noe made a good question, and trying to find it out was exactly what brought me here. I'm about to buy either a 1055T or a 1075T. I live in Brazil, where hardware is usually very expensive and prices don't always follow the same logic and proportions as in the U.S. Here, the 1075T almost matches the 1090T in price and therefore is usually not a good value, but occasionally one can find deals placing it closer in price to the 1055T, and in that case I'd like to know if it's worth to pay more for it, however little, as I have seen several reviews achieving stable 4 GHz and beyond for the 1055T as well.

In fact, I may not even feel the need to overclock it (the "fast enough" thing), but it's so comforting to know that if I do, I can possibly get near-980X performance for a fraction of the price...

Another good question would be power consumption. I have read that when you overclock X6's they start gushing up power like mad, reaching up to 300 watts (yes, just the processor, not the whole PC) at around 4 GHz. That's something to consider as well, when deciding if it's worth to overclock it and to what extent.

Finally, a more straightforward question: you said similar results would probably only be possible with an 890FX mainboard. I'd love to have one, but they are prohibitively expensive here. So, I have the crippled version of it, an 890GX mainboard. Do you think the GX could yield similar results?

Thanks a lot!
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# RE: Good question, also energy and 890GXNoe 2010-12-10 01:54
Since the time of my first post here, I have been researching other sites/forums to see if the 1055T can be OC'd @ 4GHZ.

While I have found that it is possible & with a stable system, the rest of my question still remains.
Also I am now wondering about the effects OCing a 1055T this high would have on the longevity of the CPU & whether this would differ for the 1075T at all? (I realize that any answer to this would be mostly speculation & also be dependent on cooling solutions etc.)
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# RE: RE: Good question, also energy and 890GXDavid Ramsey 2010-12-10 08:54
Noe: As long as you can keep the CPU temperatures reasonable, I think any "reduction in life" of a CPU caused by overclocking would be minimal. But this is just speculation. I've been overclocking for more than a decade and I've never lost one yet, overclocking, say, an old Motoroal 68040 from 33MHz to 40MHz is quantitatively different from taking a modern processor to 4GHz. For one thing, the TDP on a 68040 was only 20 watts!
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# RE: Good question, also energy and 890GXDavid Ramsey 2010-12-10 08:50
Goyta: We have not tested a 1055T here at Benchmark Reviews, but I'd guess that its overclocking capability would be similar to the 1075T. Overclocking any processor increases the power consumption (which is why you need better cooling), but remember that the processor won't be running at 4GHz all the time (unless you've disabled power saving features in the BIOS). Re the overclocking performance of an 890GX mainboard, again, I haven't tested one of those, and can only guess how well it would work. The 890FX motherboards are aimed at enthusiasts and will generally have better power supply circuits, cooling, etc...it's more than just the chipset. Obviously if you plan to overclock you should look for a higher end motherboard. That said, I imagine a good 890GX motherboard could at least come quite close to the OC capabilities of an 890FX motherboard.
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# UpdateGoyta 2011-02-01 20:24
David, thank you very much. It has been a while since I last posted here, and in the meantime I have upgraded my PC as planned - actually, better than planned. A combination of slightly smaller prices due to launching the 1100T, a good deal and a bit more money available than I had thought I would, all have made me go for a 1090T. This is, of course, a Black Edition processor, so overclocking it is a breeze if you have proper cooling (I got an Akasa Nero 2, which while not "top" is a fairly decent CPU cooler and should give me some room if I decide to do that).

But that is not in my plans for now. I have found that even at stock speeds, it is scaringly fast! I simply don't need to overclock it, and don't think I will need it any time soon. I'm also impressed at the thermal efficiency: when idle on a not so hot day (I live in a subtropical latitude and it's summer here down South now), CPU temperature gets as low as 21°C, and I'm yet to see it go over 44°C under stress. Well, I wanted a PC to last several years, and I've got one. I'm very happy. Thanks a lot for your help!
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# RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBGRBOXDavid Ramsey 2010-12-10 08:59
Noe, there is no "1035T". And we've never received a 1055T here for review, so I can't compare it to the 1075T/1090T/1100T...but I'm pretty sure it's just the standard Thuban 6-core design with a different multiplier, so if I had to bet, I'd say you could probably overclock it to the same degree as a 1075T. Remember that since it's not a Black Edition processor, the only way to overclock it is to raise the base clock. FWIW, AMD lists 6 Thuban processors: 1045T, 1055T, 1065T, 1075T, 1090T, and 1100T. As best I can tell the 1045T and 1065T are not available at the retail level but are OEM-only parts.
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# RE: RE: RE: AMD Phenom-II X6-1075T CPU HDT75TFBGRBOXNoe 2010-12-10 20:38
The 1035T does exist but is probably OEM only aswell. Also there is a 1055T 125W version & a 1055T 95W version. The 95W version is interesting because, from what I have read, it has a higher temp tolerance of 71C compared to 62C for the 125W version.
If I understand it right, both these versions OCd to 4GHZ would draw the same power under load but at idle with power saving enabled, the 95W version should draw less power.
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# RE: Phenom II x6 1075THyperion 2011-02-17 17:25
Got mine month ago. On 4+1 phase gigabyte 790FX-DS5 i couldn't overclock at all. Mosfet would get too hot and I got lower fps/results with higher frequency(3,2-3,6GHz) than the stock 3,0GHz.

So I bought the ASUS M4A89GTD PRO (8+2 phase) and I reborned with it. I reached 4,0GHz in a minute with 1,425V. Max for 3D bench is 4,2-4,3GHz and the most i got with this combination on air is 4,5GHz @ 1,596V. That was very unstable but enough for one round of super pi 1M and then BSOD.

For 24/7 I am holding it at 3,8GHz @ 1,375V. I use Scythe Mugen 2 and temperatures are very good. About 45C in games, 52-53C in occt. With 4GHz 55-57C in OCCT. Scythe Mugen 2 is very very silent cooler i recommand it.

Dont use X6 processor on 4+1 phase motherboard if you want to overclock. 4+1 phase is only OK for stock 3.0GHz nothing more.

Sry for bad english.
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# # RE: Phenom II x6 1075TPaxos 2011-03-23 15:49
Hyperion , thanks for the post. You gave me somethink to think.
Nice job.
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# chip still going strongDaniel Mac 2012-03-21 00:41
been a couple years since the article came out, still wanna say my oc'd 1075t on 3.9 still spanks the pants off my new 2nd gen core i5 2500 LOL
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