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Written by Olin Coles   
Thursday, 17 June 2010
Table of Contents: Page Index
ASUS P6X58D-E Motherboard Performance
Intel Core i7: Platform
Intel X58-Express Platform
ASUS P6X58D-E Features
ASUS P6X58D-E Specifications
First Look: ASUS P6X58D-E
Closer Look:ASUS P6X58D-E
BIOS and Overclocking
Motherboard Testing Methodology
EVEREST CPU Benchmarks
Cinebench R11.5 Benchmarks
PCMark Vantage Test Results
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Aliens vs Predator Benchmark
Power Consumption Results
Tylersburg Refresh Final Thoughts
ASUS P6X58D-E Conclusion

Tylersburg Refresh Final Thoughts

Back when Benchmark Reviews launched the Intel Core i7 CPU & X58-Express platform in November 2008, having a team of two or more graphics cards seemed plausible for a few elite gamers. Extremely low retail prices on DDR3 system memory helped ease the new standard into mainstream acceptance when it would return in the P55-Express platform. However, it's because of Intel's X-before-P launch schedule that new technologies such as SuperSpeed USB-3.0 and third-generation SATA 6Gb/s were delivered on the mainstream P55 and overlooked the aging X58-Express "Tylersburg" enthusiast chipset. Without fail, the manufacturers have created their very own Tylersburg-refresh options ahead of the Intel X68-Express platform.

If X58 is good for anything, it's the 32-link lanes it provides PCI-Express 2.0 graphics. For single-unit video cards this is a non-issue, since sixteen lanes are more than enough and both the P55 or X58-Express platforms offer this. It's the multi-card setups that will see the most benefit from X58, primarily Triple-SLI and CrossFireX 'Tri-Fire' sets with three video cards. Additionally, the new NEC SuperSpeed USB3 and Marvell SATA6G controllers won't cause any performance penalty for borrowing much-needed PCI-Express link lanes on the X58 platform like they would on P55. But even still, X58-Express cannot offer what P55 has introduced: optimal memory management. Benchmark Reviews has further documented the differences in our P55 vs X58 article.

With DRAM being sold at the lowest prices we've seen in many years, the introduction of a motherboard willing to harness large amounts of DDR3 may be a blessing in disguise. Even though enthusiasts have yet to fall in love with 64-bit versions of the Windows Operating System, there has been renewed interest since the launch of Windows 7. Supporting up to 24GB or system memory on a desktop motherboard is unheard of, and it's all thanks to triple-channel support on X58. The downside, however, is that transaction times are far worse than if the memory controller was integrated into the processor such as on Intel's 'Lynnfield' Core-i5/i7 LGA1156 processors.

As the Intel P55 chipset has now demonstrated, the future is in PCH-based designs, and 32- (or 22nm) technology has paved the way for Moore's law to continue as predicted. A true Tylersburg refresh (X68) may deliver all of the hardware features we desire for modern computing, but this isn't Field of Dreams, and if you build it they won't come. Computer hardware needs more than speed and power; it needs purpose.

New and upcoming DirectX-11 software notwithstanding, video games have generally required the same graphical power as they needed over the past few years. Newer server and virtualization technology continues to refine efficiency and uses fewer CPU cycles. So essentially software is barely moving forward while hardware is making leaps and bounds. Which raises the question: to what end?

Software just hasn't been keeping up its end of the deal, and most people still use 32-bit technology (introduced back in Windows 95). it's sad but true. Games like Crysis helped give reason for advancing graphics technology, just like virtualization technology and Terminal Services helped push processor power. But the apex of software demands hasn't really changed in several years, and having massive amounts of system memory are only helpful if there's an application that requires it.

I used to overclock my Pentium 4 (and later Pentium D and Core 2) processor to get a few extra frames out of Battlefield 2 and earn more work units per day with Folding@Home. But now I have a graphics card that performs 600x better at folding proteins than my CPU ever did, and I have a Core-i7 processor that can encode my self-authored DVD's in a fraction of the time it used to take. We haven't hit the wall, but the light at the end of the tunnel is getting very close.

If software doesn't come around soon, perhaps in the shape of widespread adoption towards 64-bit computing using Microsoft Windows 7, we'll soon share the same dilemma facing the automobile industry: high-horsepower engines with break-neck torque driving down roads with a 65-MPH speed limit. I personally feel that this has been the case ever since Intel launched the Core 2 processor, which is why we're now sharing the other auto-industry dilemma: power efficiency.



 

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# RE: ASUS P6X58D-E Xtreme Design MotherboardDavid Ramsey 2010-06-18 13:09
It's getting to the point where I wouldn't consider an X58 mobo that doesn't have an NF200 chip on it; I want SATA 6 and USB 3, but Intel's paucity of PCI-E lanes means that if I run SLI or CrossFire, I'm gonna lose USB 3 and/or SATA 6. This just isn't acceptable these days, which is why I'd recommend people that don't need the absolute fastest processor (especially gamers) look at the AMD 890FX platform.
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# PLEASE FIX THIS glaring ERRORJustin Chang 2010-06-21 10:47
Obviously the reviewer who wrote this and the review for the asus p6x58d deluxe does not know what he is talking about.

the pcie bandwith used to support usb3 and sata 3 comes from the ICH10R southbridge, which support up to6 pcie links.

In this case x4 is used for bandwith for usb3 and sata3, and the remaining x2 are used as 2 x1 pcie connectors on the motherboard.

Meanwhile the northbridge supports 32 pcie links used for graphics.

In essence sata3 and usb 3 DOES NOT STEAL BANDWITH FROM GRAPHICS.

If the author of this article does not fix this serious lapse of knowledge in this review and the P6x58D review I WILL LOSE FAITH IN BENCHMARKREVIEWS.COM AND CEASE TO FREQUENT THIS SITE.
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# Goodbye then.Olin Coles 2010-06-21 12:37
@ Justin Chang: I already know that you are wrong, and trying to pass incorrect information off as fact with your baseless rant. Bruce has already listed Intel references showing that the information in my review is correct. Don't bother coming back if all you're going to do is spread false information.
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# RE: PLEASE FIX THIS glaring ERRORBruce Bruce 2010-06-21 14:24
Justin: where is the PCI-e 2.0 interface on the ICH10R chip? That's what the most common NEC and Marvell chips need, not the PCI-e 1.1 that's available on the ICH10 chip that you pointed out. Now, if you add in a PLX bridge, you can translate multiple PCI-E 1.1 lanes into PCI-e 2.0, but that's not how the motherboard in this review was designed.
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# Intel Doc for referenceBruce Bruce 2010-06-22 08:41
BTW - Take a look at Figure 2 and Figure 10 in //download.intel.com/design/intarch/papers/321087.pdf for details on the four "Spare" PCI-e 2.0 connections to the IOH. This is the only place to directly access the 5 GT/s interface that is required for SATA 6Gb/s connections. They are coming out of the X58 chip, not the ICH10R. I'm not saying that this is how ASUS implemented their design, and ASUS doesn't share this level of design detail with everyone. So I can only show what's possible, given the known capabilities of the components.
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# Also...SteveC 2010-07-06 21:48
Also to Justin J, what's the point at this time worrying about SATA 3 (Gbit) nothing comes close to using that entire bandwidth. And if so, I would much rather have Intel master that rather than Marvell based on numerous performance charts.

I agree, do not spread deceit and do not generalize. I agree with everyone that posted in response to your post. Got the facts, lay them out for us to see. As far as my 2 cents about the SATA bandwidth, I can provide links if need be or direct. Show us your hand........
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# I have a question about the 3rd PCI-E x16 SlotRonnyDobbs 2010-08-19 19:01
I am planning on buying this MOBO and i am going to populate all 3 pci-e x16 slots with 2 GTX 460's and 1 Killer 2100 Nic and also i am going to populate the x1 slot at the top with a Creative Sound Blaster PCI E card now if i enable the Sata3 and USB3 will i see a drop in performance?
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# High Pitch NoiseSteve 2010-08-22 20:25
I have read lots of reviews but I like to think they're biased or just I'm extreme unlucky and and sensitive.

I've got a solid midi tower with HDDs in internal enclosures. When running the P6X58D-E with a i7 930 I hear a high pitch whistleing noise. Similar to distortion in speakers - but none are connected. It's definitely the motherboard, I tried 3(!) P6X58D-E which had all the same noise. It's not very loud but quite annoying if you're sitting in a quiet office.

I eventually could fix it by disabeling the C1E support which means the motherboard is always in full throttle mode but that's not acceptable for me at that price! So if you want a quiet board, look somewhere else.

Cheers.
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# RE: High Pitch NoiseOlin Coles 2010-08-22 20:54
It sounds like you're either hearing noise from the power supply, or you've got a motherboard defect.
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# RE: RE: High Pitch NoiseJon 2010-09-16 08:27
I recently build a new system myself with the P6X58D Premium with a i7 950, and I am getting the "whine." I tried disabling C1E, SpeedStep and the other throttle controls, but unfortunately, it still produced noise. I tried another video card and PSU as well. I have an old Asus F3Sv laptop with a T7500 that makes a similar sound as well. I used the build in Windows Power Settings to disable stepping, removing the sound most of the time. The noise generated from the P6X58D Premium is just extremely annoying. Not even the latest BIOS (1002, I believe) resolves the issue.

When I load up CoreTemp and CPUZ, CoreTemp will tell me what multiplier it's currently running at while it's making the noise, but CPUZ stays locked at one multiplier. I'm not sure why it doesn't fluctuate. It does for the older laptop.
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# High Pitch NoiseReido113 2010-09-29 04:49
I use this in a recording studio and this is absolutely an issue. It is LOUD in an acoustically treated area. Unacceptable for Studio use. Note: I disable the P6X58D-E sound in the bios and use an outboard mixer as my sound card. This connection is made with 1394. The sound is sent through the 1394. Sounds like the hard drives thinking... I will be returning this board.
As Steve said, I disabled the C1E and Speedstep and that did stop the noise, but yeah, this will drive me crazy. Needless to say if a client heard this noise. Ugh.
Thanks for posting this info gang. You helped the future!
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# RE: High Pitch NoiseReido113 2010-09-29 05:00
*correction* Disabling the C1E and Speedstep did not stop the noise, but it did make it a lot quieter. Hardly noticeable but again, it is very quite in this studio. Makes the noise easy to spot.
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# RE: RE: High Pitch NoiseJon 2010-09-30 07:50
Now, I have feedback noise through the PSU (TX-950). I've tried 4 different brands. I've even tried the older TX-650 from a previous build. All produced this whine as if the PSU was going to blow out. Needless to say, I'm quite scared to leave the computer on if I leave the apartment. When the power supplies are not plugged into the motherboard they make no noise when powered up manually (via an adapter switch I have, and I thought I'd never had a use for it, ha!). I was really psyched about this Asus build... man.
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# RE: RE: RE: High Pitch NoiseOlin Coles 2010-09-30 08:11
I've had several PSUs make the audible whine noise during video card tests. The reason is the component electronics used, and it's harmless, but you should take care to ensure that the computer is positioned in a safe location away from flamable material... just in case.
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# High Pitched noise on audio outputMark Palmos 2011-11-14 07:37
Boy am I annoyed to be reading this, and disappointed. I have had the Asus P6X58D-E for a few months, was happy with it, though I heard this high pitched sound when I got the computer, but put it down to a cheap, on board sound card... today I received a decent USB IO device, and VERY sadly, the frigging high pitched squeal is still there. Short story is, if you use this for video or audio production, the audio is not high enough quality, look elsewhere. I am really bummed.
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# @MarkMichael Beijer 2011-11-14 07:41
You can get it to stop by changing sth in the BIOS, and/or setting EPU-6 Engine to: max. power saving mode.
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# thanks!Mark Palmos 2011-11-14 07:55
That actually worked!
I think some people are talking about a physical noise rather than one that comes from their speaker.
cheers,
Mark.
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# sirspurgu 2010-12-05 00:59
I disabled speedstep and set solid cpu clock multiplier in bios which solved this problem. No irritating high frequency whir anymore :)
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# RE: ASUS P6X58D-E Xtreme Design MotherboardSteve 2010-09-09 18:46
It's the motherboard producing that noise. 100% sure. I tried 3 of them and put my old board back in (no problem there). I might have been just unlucky but I doubt it - or the whole batch from the supplier was faulty.
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# P6X58D-E causes squeal in PSUdoglikesparky 2011-01-19 11:45
My experience with this motherboard is that it doesn't actually make any squealing noises itself, but causes them in the PSU if you have C1E Enhanced Halt State enabled in BIOS, especially during disk access.

I tried 2 different PSUs (the Antec Earthwatts 500W I got with my Sonata III case and a Corsair TX650 I replaced it with) but it was still squealing away horrendously, even during idle.

(Tip: I made sure it was PSU by rolling up a sheet of paper into a tube, putting it in my ear and then then listening close up to the mobo, PSU and other parts. Great trick for isolating the source of such noises!)

Then I read about how somebody disabling C1E stopped squealing, and it worked for me. I like my PC to run 100% power ;)
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# Mr.sabo 2011-01-27 13:17
I have spent around 10 days trying to get the sata3 drive working without blue-screening like mad on the win7 pro x64 OS. I put in a WD 6GB 10K spin drive -- it was going for a little while but it's un-hooked now 'cause the machine keeps spitting out to blue-screen. I put in s sata2 7200 spin drive & all went well. $355.00 down the drain ?
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# RE: Mr.Olin Coles 2011-01-27 13:19
Who knows? You spent about as much time describing the problem as I did typing this response.
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# MrNorm 2011-01-29 23:08
Sabo is correct the mobo does not register the amount of Ram on a cold boot I have Asus P6X58D-E 3 x G Skill ddr3 PCI 2800 9-9-9-24 F3, Intel i7-950 8mb 3.06ghz Plenty of Blue screens (I blamed Win 7) only to find out it would sometimes boot at 6G only to drop out to 4G or even 2G thus causing blue screen and corruption of Win 7 (put it on 4 times before I found out the cause)DID EVERYTHING SUGGESTED BY ASUS including updating the bios (2 revisions suppose to fix the prob) Installed a new Mobo Guess what? No joy Ran checked out ok This board is a load of xxxx
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# RE: ASUS P6X58D-E Motherboard PerformanceBert 2011-03-16 19:41
There is terrible electronic noise, cpu , harddrive activity sounds, as well as constant buzzing, emf type noise, once the compuer audio (usb tascam us144mkII) output is connected into the mixer, (a mackie 1604vlz, and soundcraft ghost) I have lifted the ground on the computer and the sound remains so no ground looping between devices. Without audio turned up the noise is present, turning up volume or gain on the audio devices does not change the noise level. The two older DAWs in the studio work fine and clear connected identically. Is this an x58 board issue ?
All C states, turbo, and other bios tweaks have been done, core parking has been done, noise still present.
Thanks to anyone who offers any words of advice.
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# high pitch whistleing noiseMichael 2011-09-24 09:47
I agree with Steve (above): it is the board!
I use the EPU-6 Engine program and have to set it to 'Max Power Saving Mode' or 'Medium Power Saving Mode', otherwise I get this horrible high pitch whistleing noise and can't work peacefully any more in the same room as my pc. Jesus, what a depressing thing to discover after spending quite a lot of money on this computer.
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# Bios > Advanced > CPU Configuration > C1E SupportMichael 2011-09-24 10:01
Turning off 'C1E Support' in the BIOS seems to get rid of the sound.

Bios > Advanced > CPU Configuration > C1E Support
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# noise on audio output OR physically from mobo?Mark Palmos 2011-11-14 07:42
hello guys,

reading a few more posts, it seems the noise being talked about here is a physical noise from some component on the mobo. The noise I have been very concerned about is only audible if I plug in my speakers, and the horrid high pitched sound is there regardless of whether I use my (crappy) onboard audio or my brand new USB IO device... so there is something screwed that is giving this noise to sound output on the motherboard.

GRRRR!!!!! I just bought the USB IO to overcome this noise issue!
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# LostDredlore 2012-12-03 17:59
I bought a secondhand computer with this board and the i7 950 chip 4ghz generic ram..
I found it is a little loud but it a good trade off for how multi use the system is..

I am a web designer and use lots active programs at the same time, that tends to grind my older computers but i find it very smooth. and the gaming ability is top as well

I found the cooling system to be my only issue ( I live in tropical area, very hot / humid )
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# Computer Repair Las Vegas- Question about a Laptop Repair company in Las Vegas? Can you guys on benchmarkreviews.com help me?Computer_Repair_Las_Vegas 2013-04-25 10:52
I am aware Someone of you guys live near the Las Vegas area. My Laptop Lcd is cracked, and I am looking for a good Computer Repair Las Vegas place. A member here on benchmarkreviews.com said to call Compudoc Computer Repair. I forgot who it was. I see a place called Computer doc at 708 South Jones Boulevard Las Vegas, Nv, 89107. I called 702-871-1881 and the number is no good. Is this the place?
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